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Old 08-24-2005, 08:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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GOD spelt backwards is DOG
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Old 08-24-2005, 08:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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yeah thats great dumbass give irondog a big head thats al we need is that ego to get bigger
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Two discussions that I generally stay away from entering into, (yes even I, opinionated as I am avoid some debates), involve Religion and Politics.

No matter what your belief there will always be someone with an opposing view. Most of the time they will disagree quite forcibly with you. I now find it easier to just keep my opinion on those subjects to myself.

That said, personally speaking, I see too much horror, death, misery and poverty in this world every single day to believe that there is some almighty omnipotent being that 'loves' us all. I have yet to see one tangible piece of evidence to support that.

What did the millions and millions of starving and AIDs riddled people of Africa ever do to deserve their plight??? What did the people of Sri Lanka and surrounding areas do to deserve the Tsunami Wave last December, a Tsunami wave caused by Nature...the very 'nature' that God created?? Damn nice of him eh?? What did Jessica Lunsford ever do to deserve the violence and horror that John Couey forced upon her??? And they are but three examples, there are hundreds of thousands of real, tangible horrors that we can see, feel and touch every single day.

Going to a big building with some fancy windows and singing a bunch of songs whilst reading a book that is over 2000 years old and is riddled with inconsistencies doesn't bring me comfort. It doesn't bring me hope that the troubles and horrors of this world will ever be solved. There is NO EVIDENCE of it.

What is at the root cause of almost every war in human history. Not land, not oil, not money....you got it. RELIGION. More people have died fighting over religious differences than any other reason other than maybe old age and natural causes.

People of Religion will say that "God has a plan for us all" and crap like "Horrors like this happen and you see God working in all the people who try to help" and "It brings out the good in fellow men!"

What a load of bollocks. I refuse to believe that there is one almighty, all seeing, omnipotent being that would allow suffering on a Global scale.

When I see it with my own eyes, hear it with my own ears and can touch it with my own hands and see real results and real relief to suffering. Then, and only then, I may sign up to this Religious mumbo jumbo.
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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damn will i couldnt have said it better myself...........now myslef i like to follow most of the teachings of budhsim.....basically be nice to each other if there is an after life and your good.....youll recive a good outcome if u dont, not good.... not hell or heavan but somthing....i also am a BIG bilever in karma.....i think christanity is a big money maker and alot of hypocrites in the reliogn are like if you dont think and act like me or oull burn in hell. well if therye"god" loves me so much why would i burn in hell for makeing mistakes hell even my own father forgives me...all these religous peoples need to stop paying for their preachers house and new car and start helping the starving kids in the world...prayers arent gonna feed them or give them shelter money and hard work will....on the suject of mass deaths i belive that they happen cause it was just time for all of those people to go .......i dont belive in your typical christain god..i do belive however that there is somthing i dont know what but somthing...its ot this selfish man who gets pissed and burn people for not kissing his ass....cause like will said if he controls everything hes done an awfull lot of stupid shit to his "children" .....i think nature has its own order i do belive there is somthing higher than us that gave us free will and we complty disregaurd each other as human beings....theres enough money in this world to make sure those kids in africa and other countrys can eat more that some damn bagged rice...its time we all pull together no counrty is better than any other country what seperates us is our religons....and thats it.......u can bet your ass if some african tribe calimed to be christans all the sudden the money would pour in and those babies wouldnt die of hunger or aids,.there are churches with millions of dollars in there accounts and they do shit with it except live like kings and feed the followers full of shit while passing the offering plate casue the bills are due...im not saying all christians are like that ive meet very nice ones but christians tend to think they are better than everyone else and there religon is the best ...its just somthing i cannot stand...but thats my opion and im not saying this to offend anyone just my view on things......
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:26 AM   #15 (permalink)
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GOD spelt backwards is DOG
The Dog is God? We are truly doomed!
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:03 AM   #16 (permalink)
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"Charge the Christian Church property tax, you could wipe out the national debt" -paraphrased George Carlin
I'm starting my own religion, it says that in between all teachings of all religions of the world, if you combine them, you might eventually get one right. It will be truly non-profit, all money for contributions will go to buy a plane ticket to africa, and I will get my stooge to fly to Africa, and distribute this money. There will be no requirement for church- if you believe in God, love him, and don't do anything to piss him off too bad, you go to heaven. Lastly, all religous books are meant to be read and interpreted to your personal understanding, not taken literally. If you use these books to persicute another, you will have sex (bottom) with hump-hump the giant panda.
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If I believed in one supreme being who creates life and allows us into an eternal heaven and damns us to hell. Then I might believe that The Dog is God. But for now I'll just believe that we live until we die and that there is a preordained time for each of us to go.

The bible is quite a book of fiction and stories handed down from generation to generation
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"Charge the Christian Church property tax, you could wipe out the national debt" -paraphrased George Carlin
I'm starting my own religion, it says that in between all teachings of all religions of the world, if you combine them, you might eventually get one right. It will be truly non-profit, all money for contributions will go to buy a plane ticket to africa, and I will get my stooge to fly to Africa, and distribute this money. There will be no requirement for church- if you believe in God, love him, and don't do anything to piss him off too bad, you go to heaven. Lastly, all religous books are meant to be read and interpreted to your personal understanding, not taken literally. If you use these books to persicute another, you will have sex (bottom) with hump-hump the giant panda.
Where is this Giant Panda?
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Old 08-26-2005, 10:31 AM   #19 (permalink)
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That is for The One* to know and those that persicute others using religious books to find out.


*(with the giant rectum that hides all, including hump-hump the giant panda)
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"You dont have to apologize to me, I wasn't offended at all. As far as your being an atheist, it is only temporary. When we leave this earth, we know there is a God. But it is nice if you get it together before we get there, you dont get any second chances once you get there."

How wonderfully patronising, typical evangelical.

Answer me these questions, three.

If god is good, why does bad shit happen to good people?

If we have been given freedom by god, why do christians and the bible forever go on about "god has great plans for you."?

If god does exist, why did he need such a fucking good publisist?
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